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Re: Be Real - remember Indiana (2.00 / 3)

On April 8th of 1992 a full two months before he would secure enough delegates to claim the nomination Bill's staff was calling him the presumptive nominee:

[Apr 8, 1992] Clinton's showing yesterday convinced many Democrats that, even with the depth of concern about his character and his ability to win in November within his own party, his nomination is now all but assured. "Bill Clinton is the presumptive nominee," declared Mark Mellman


"In the primary you should vote with your heart, but in the general, you should vote with your head" Hillary's husband
by venician on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:59:50 PM EST
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Exactly (none / 0)

the same way he declared victory in the 1992 NH primary, even though he came in 2nd by 8 points.


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:39:00 PM EST
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Re: Exactly (2.00 / 1)

Its mathematically impossible for |Obama to reach the required delegate count, however.

With Bill, he had sucha  lead that it was a foregone conclusion.

Your analogy is a crock.


Until recently I was selling drugs, and now I'm selling Obama T-shirts.
by switching sides on Sat May 17, 2008 at 11:50:19 PM EST
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"Obama's Fading Support..." McLaughlin (2.00 / 1)

Russett said after NC and before IN, that he was declaring Obama the nominee and that it was over and indisputable.  That's what got him the title role here.

Lawrence O'Donnell said that Hillary's speechh that night was her concession speech but others just didn't know how to read between the lines.

Others wer carrying on about how Obama didn't campaign in WV when actually he had sent in double the ground forces Hillary had, spent well over twice as much blanketting the state with ads and opened twice as many campaign headquarters as Hillary.  And that got him 27%, even though he had been annointed for over over a week.

Gloria and others seemed to enjoy discounting the vote because they wer all women, old, conservative,uneducated and poor.  She didn't even read the CNN exit Polls afailable at CNN Election Central for every state.  The exits said that :

58% had college  and voted Hillary 61% - 30
14% had post graduate  - voted Hillary 55 -40
34% were liberal and voted Hillary 67% - 29
13% said very liberal and 72% picked Hillary
45% made over 50,000 and voted Hillary 61% -30
47% male voted Hillary 60% and Obama 30%

Is Clinton Honest? yes 64%  no  34%

Is Obama Honest?  yes 43%  no  55%

18% were Independents - Hillary 54 -32 Obama

Youth 17-29 years voted Hillary 59% - 35% Obama
Age 30-44 voted Hillary 66 - 24 Obama
Age 45-59 voted Hillary 67 - 24 Obama
Age 60 + voted Hillary 71 - 24 Obama

Hillary has been making inroads into Obama's core groups for several primaries, except the Black vote.  She was winning young people of all other races, for instance, and won all youth in California.  She has been getting more male, college, and higher income groups.  The overwhelming solidarity of the Black bloc skews the way the numbers in Obama's core groups in all of the other races.

Now there was some news in those figures. Didn't hear it from the "expert commentators" till John McLaughlin featured what he called "Obama's weakening support"  as shown in the WV primary and other exit polling lately.


by itsadryheat on Sun May 18, 2008 at 12:39:23 AM EST
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